particular plan within medicare, a plan pre-approved by the government. they all compete for seniors. they all compete for seniors' business. that would get costs down. we also need to cut costs of other government programs. government spending has risen from an average of 20% of gdp up to 25%. it's absurd that we're talking about increasing taxes with the fiscal cliff without talks of cutting spending throughout the government, like $12 billion a year for green energy programs. >> david, you argue that the administration is going after medicare and medicaid fraud, right, but what about the responsibility of medicare to understand what they are paying for, the back brace, knowing that you shouldn't be paying $900 for this product? >> yeah, that's crazy. >> it's crazy. >> and, you know, the president's latest proposal, by the way, includes $300 billion in cuts to medicare over the next decade. i also want to correct something that diana said, you know, that we're not cutting, going after cutting spending.